By Cpl. Bob Sealy
NORFOLK, Va. (Mar 1) -- Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Norman Hathcock II, United States Marine Corps(Ret.), was laid to rest Friday, February 26, at Woodlawn Memorial Gardens in Norfolk, Virginia. Gunnery Sgt. Hathcock was 56.
Mourners came from all across the United States. Some dressed in suits and ties, others in faded, Vietnam-era camouflage uniforms. They made the trip-- some driving twenty-four hours straight-- to pay their respects to Gunnery Sgt. Hathcock. Hundreds of people, including scores of active duty servicemembers and law enforcement personnel, attended the military funeral to remember a man considered by many to be the best Marine Corps sniper ever.
Lines formed as attendees waited to sign the overflowing guest log. One glance at the log and it was easy to see how many people knew and respected Hathcock; Charlotte Mecklenburg Police, Virginia Beach Special Weapons and Tactics Team, Sea, Air and Land Teams 2 and 8, Hathcock's Rangers, Parris Island Shooting Team, on and on.
A deafening silence fell over the standing-room-only crowd at Woodlawn Funeral Home's chapel when Hathcock's son, Gunnery Sgt. Carlos N. Hathcock III, approached the lecturn. "To everyone here today, he was known as Gunny Hathcock. To me he, was Dad," Hathcock III said, his voice breaking. "He's the Dad that would let me sleep in the boat when we went fishing, and the one I'd fight with when I was a teenager," remembered Hathcock III, wiping tears from his eyes. "It's taken me up until the last few years to figure out what he was trying to teach me, because now I have a son too. Thank you Dad."
Navy Captain Norman D. Holcomb, Force Chaplain for U.S. Marine Corps Forces, Atlantic officiated the service. Chaplain Holcomb, a former Marine infantryman and sniper, served with Hathcock before joining the Navy. "I transferred from a sniper unit to an infantry unit and got shot shortly thereafter," Holcomb said. "The Gunny told me- that's what happens when you leave your cover and concealment go back to the grunts, you make yourself a target," Holcomb recalled Hathcock kidding him.
Marine Security Forces Battalion (MCSF Bn) from Norfolk provided honor guards for the visitation and funeral, as well as rifle and burial details. Lieutenant Colonel Jeffery Christman, executive officer of MCSF Bn, played the Marines' Hymn and Amazing Grace on bagpipes. Sergeant Major Joseph L. Houle, U.S. Marine Corps Forces, Atlantic Sergeant Major, presented the family with two neatly-folded flags. Mrs. Hathcock received one and her son, Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock III, the other.
Hathcock's passing marked the end of a battle he'd been fighting for nearly 30 years. Not against the enemy in some far-off land; this battle was against multiple sclerosis. Diagnosed in June, 1975 with the disease, Hathcock continued serving his country until being medically retired in April, 1979, just 55 days short of a full 20 years in the Corps.
Hathcock gained notoriety for his outstanding marksmanship shortly after joining the Marine Corps in May, 1959. The Vietnam veteran pioneered new methods of instruction and weapons for the Marine sniper. He helped establish the Marine Corps Scout/Sniper Instructor school at Quantico, Virginia. Hathcock once recorded a kill from two thousand five hundred meters using an M2 .50 caliber machinegun with a side-mounted scope-- one of his own innovations.
Hathcock is often quoted as saying, "The most deadly thing on the battlefield is one well-aimed shot." He was severely burned while saving the lives of seven Americans from a fiery mine explosion in Vietnam. He was later awarded a Silver Star, the military's third highest decoration, for his heroic actions. Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock II: Marine Sniper, husband, father, teacher, friend. He will be missed.
Hathcock felt his chest tighten and his heartbeat increase; although already Distinguished and a world-class competitive rifleman, he was still new to combat and the killing of men. As he silently eased the safety forward, his right hand settled firmly into place on the small of the stock. He was in his "bubble" now a zone of total concentration. He exhaled, and there was the front sight: on target, crisp, in razor-sharp focus. and centered in the rear sight aperture. The rifle was absolutely still as he took up the slack in the two-stage trigger, and then applied the final pressure. Such was the depth of his concentration that he was only vaguely aware of the rifles' report as it jolted against his shoulder. As the bolt cycled, the empty case skittered brightly across the ground to his right, and the M-14 settled back into Position, cocked and ready for a second shot. None was needed, however. The enemy guerrilla lay sprawled, no longer a threat. Sgt. Carlos Hathcock II had made his first kill. Officially, it was unconfirmed - one of fourteen unconfirmed kills he was to make before his assignment as a Marine sniper. However, that didn't concern him. It was simply a job that had to be done. By his actions, Carlos Hathcock had certainly saved the lives of several brother Marines scheduled to patrol the area being mined that day.
Hathcock went on to an illustrious career as the Marine Corps' top sniper in Viet Nam, with 93 confirmed kills and countless more unconfirmed. His exploits are legendary. He stalked enemy snipers, infiltrated an NVA general's headquarters, and pinned down a company of enemy soldiers for several days, to cite only a few. Known as "Long Tra'ng" for the trademark white feather he wore to taunt his enemies, he was so feared that when the standard bounty on U.S. snipers was eight dollars, his head was worth several thousand. Severely burned in combat during his second tour in Viet Nam, he recovered and returned to active duty. However, due to his extensive burns and to the insidious onset of multiple sclerosis, he was unable to resume rifle competition at his former level. Now retired on disability, Hathcock leads a quiet life at home.
I first read of Hathcock in 1987. At the time, I was still fairly fresh out of the Army, and was competing in rifle silhouette - both smallbore and Highpower Rifle. I spent the rest of my free time hunting deer, and Carlos' marksmanship and fieldcraft abilities soon captured my imagination. The more I stalked the Alabama forests and dabbled in longrange shooting, the more he came to represent what was possible for the well trained, motivated and disciplined individual rifleman. Over the years 1, along with thousands of fellow rifle competitors, absorbed Carlos' story as part of the lore of shooting, alongside other noted American marksmen and soldiers such as Sgt. Alvin York. Time passed. This year, while at Camp Perry, I was reminded of Carlos' declining health, and I resolved to attempt to help in some small way. I approached the editor of Precision Shooting about interviewing Carlos for the magazine. Dave Brennan, who was also familiar with Hathcock's situation, was as enthusiastic as I was, and the plan went forward. Now, eight years after reading his story, I was finally to have a chance to meet the man behind the legend!
As I parked my rental car in front of a neat, red brick house in Virginia Beach, Virginia, it became apparent the I had found the right place. On this sunny, fall day - appropriately enough, the Marine Corps birthday - American and USMC flags fluttered from a mast in the front yard. A late-model pickup, scrupulously clean, bore the custom license plate, "SNIPER". Then, the hard reality of Carlos' illness hit home when I saw the well-built wheelchair ramp and handrail leading to the front door. And, finally, there was Carlos Hathcock himself, smiling pleasantly as he walked to greet me. My first impression was almost exactly what I'd expected. A slender man, with a trim, athletic build and a firm handshake despite his ongoing battle with multiple sclerosis, Carlos wore crisp blue jeans, a neat shirt, spit-shined shoes and, ever the Marine, a fresh haircut. As he ushered me into a comfortable living room filled with knickknacks, family photos and mementos of his Marine service, whatever trepidation I might have felt was soon put to rest. Outside, the autumn wind rustled a few leaves in the yard as I settled on the couch and we got acquainted. Carlos' cat, Buddy, a huge and affectionate feline, purred contentedly on the arm of the sofa as I scratched his ears, while Lady, their dog, lay by the door anticipating Mrs. Hathcock's return from the grocery store. Before long, it was lunch time and Carlos and I repaired to the Open House diner near his home, where he is one of the regulars. Over an old-fashioned meal of waffles, eggs and (of course) grits, he put me at ease as we swapped stories about hunting and shooting. One of my favorite accounts involved Carlos and other members of the Marine Corps Rifle Team's having been tasked with eliminating the groundhogs which, at that time, threatened to take over a range at Quantico. They cheerfully obliged, using their issue 7.62mm sniper rifles. (A dirty, thankless job, but somebody had to do it!) That surely has to count as one of the most unlucky colonies of groundhogs in the history of the species!!
Later, upon our return, we began the interview for Precision Shooting in earnest. One of my first questions had to do with, who had taught Carlos how to shoot? As he put it, "I did." There was nobody to teach me, so I had to learn myself." Carlos used a .22 rifle with open sights to hunt rabbits and squirrels for the table, and by the time he joined the Marines at age 17, he was already a good shot. In boot camp, his skills were refined with formal instruction, and he qualified as Expert - "which was few and far between, at that time." From there, he went to Hawaii, where he won an intramural shootoff and was picked by the Hawaii Marines rifle team. Honing his skills still further in NRA Highpower Rifle competition, Hathcock specialized in Service Rifle competition with the National Match M-1 Garand.
In 1962, upon completing his tour in Hawaii, Carlos transferred to Cherry Point, NC, where he coached on the rifle range and competed on the Wing team. Funds were limited, and Carlos began traveling to matches at his own expense, to augment the experience he could obtain through the team. What equipment were they using then? "National Match M-ls and issue Match ammo. It was a real good combination." Did the service rifle shooters ever use handloads? "Absolutely not." Eventually, Carlos began shooting 1000 yard competition, using a Winchester Model 70 Target rifle fitted with an Unertl target scope. This rifle, in cal. .300 Winchester Magnum, was accurized by the Marine Corps rifle team armorers at Quantico, Va. and his ammunition was handloaded by loading shop personnel.
Did Carlos ever do any handloading while at Cherry Point? "No, heavens no, they had people in the loading room that did that mess. I was the one that shot'em. I remember when I won the Wimbledon, and people gathered all around me," he recalled. "They had a lot of reporters up there, and they were sayin' this and askin' that. The Gunner came over and said, 'He don't know nothin', he just shoots 'em! We give 'em to him, and he shoots 'em!' And, that was the truth. I never worked on sticks [rifles] or built bullets, or nothing like that. My job was to launch 'em downrange."
Carlos Hathcock on Sniper Training
Carlos Hathcock's early education in sniping occurred in Hawaii, under the tutelage of Lt. (later Major) E.J. Land. This school was intended, in part, to help justify the continued existence of the Hawaii Marines rifle team. As Carlos described it, "It was a one-week school, with no field tactics or anything. We learned mostly shooting, to try to hang on to the Hawaii Marines team there." Where did Hathcock learn to stalk? "I learned it from being a hunter as a kid, and the rest I taught myself." Did the snipers use ghillie suits in the early days? "No, heavens no, we hadn't even thought about 'em, to tell you the truth. We used natural camouflage, not artificial. I had little holes in all my uniforms for that."
From that humble beginning, Hathcock added much to his skills of fieldcraft and tactics during his tours of duty in Viet Nam. His exploits are well chronicled in the book, Marine Sniper, and won't be recounted here. Several sniper schools were operated in Viet Nam by the Marine Corps and U.S. Army, with varied training and success; Hathcock served as an instructor while overseas, helping train a sniping component that later proved extremely effective in action. However, after the war, these schools were discontinued. Prior to the Viet Nam War, sniper training had traditionally been virtually non-existent in the U.S. Armed forces during peacetime, with isolated exceptions. Now, the military appeared bent upon returning to the old status quo amidst the postwar drawdown.
However, Carlos Hathcock, Major Land and others involved in sniping in Viet Nam had demonstrated clearly the worth of snipers as a cost-efficient and highly effective tool in combat. An organized effort was made to push the establishment of snipers and sniper training as a permanent part of U.S.M.C. organization, and Carlos went on to become the N.C.O. in Charge of the newly-founded Marine Corps Scout/Sniper School at Quantico, He was instrumental in contributing to the training syllabus for this three-week course, but his impact took other form, as well. His story was told time and again as an example of what a motivated, trained sniper could accomplish, and his achievements helped turn the theoretical into the tangible. The new sniper course went far beyond the training in marksmanship which Carlos had received so long ago in Hawaii. Instead, soldiers were taught a variety of skills including observation, map reading, stalking, tactics, camouflage, procedures for calling in artillery and air support, etc. During our interview, Carlos expressed the opinion that the school remains comprehensive in its instruction, and that graduates are well-prepared for their role in combat.
Somewhat less well-known is the part Hathcock played in the training of police counter-snipers after his retirement from the service. As I broached this topic, he was careful to draw a distinction between the military and police sniper: "The military sniper is an area shooter - that's what I was. There's 36" between a man's chin and his belt buckle, and a hit anywhere in there will work. However, a police counter-sniper is a precision, surgical shooter. There's just one spot he's got to hit, to neutralize the bad guy right then. Say a bad guy has got a cocked pistol to a hostage's head. The police sniper has to hit the bad guy so exactly that he doesn't shoot, he doesn't fall sideways or backwards, he just falls straight down. That's a good shot, and I have had a few policemen who have made good shots after they left this school."
Carlos scrupulously avoided describing his police counter-sniper training in detail, lest he compromise techniques which might be of benefit to criminals, As he said, "I really idolize those guys - the police snipers - and that's why I spent so much time working with policemen." In sharp contrast to military sniping, in which shots ranging out to 800 yards or more may be taken, Hathcock noted that the average police sniping incident occurs at only 83 yards as per recent FBI statistics. Instant incapacitation of dangerous offenders is THE rationale behind the employment of police snipers. As such, his training has focused on shooting at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards. Hathcock, himself, is no longer is no longer physically able to train students, but he takes pride that several police marksman whom he personally trained teach at the police sniping at school Virginia Beach.
This course, of 10 days duration, is physically demanding; each day starts before daylight and continues until well after dark. There is no slack time during the course. Physical conditioning is stressed, with an obstacle course scheduled for Day One to insure that all candidates are physically fit. Carlos noted that, in the beginning, about 30% of applicants failed the course, mostly due to poor physical conditioning. However, this has improved significantly as the course requirements became more widely known.
Applicants MUST be badge-carrying members of a police SWAT team to be accepted, and must come as part of a sniper/spotter team. All training is tactically oriented - i.e., students will run and shoot wearing all the gear they intend to use on operations, so excess equipment is discouraged. The course teaches techniques of movement without being detected, stalking, and shooting techniques. Observation/intelligence reporting are also highly emphasized. For example, Hathcock conducted a daily exercise to teach careful observation and attention to detail. "I'd tell 'em from the get-go, on the first day of the school, that I'd be wearing something different every day, and it was up to them to know what I'd worn on any given day," he recalled. "I'd wear all kinds of little doodads, and everything - I'd were different covers [caps] and they'd be tested on it later." Another exercise Hathcock ran hinged upon student's tendency to look only for the things they expected to see, such as targets. He recounted the test: "We had a Hogan's Alley down there at the Virginia Beach school. One thing they didn't get, except for one student, was, I was on the back side of one of the windows of Hogan's Alley, and I had a piece of string that I just kind of flipped out the window. One of my instructors saw it. Mike was the only one - now, that impressed me."
The backbone of the course is its emphasis on basic marksmanship techniques. Sniper candidates bring 500 rounds of match ammunition with them to school. Every care is taken to insure that graduates can instantly incapacitate a suspect if the need should arise. As Carlos put it, "We shoot a bunch downrange. We've got to teach 'em everything about shooting. A lot of 'em think they know about shooting, but they don't. We re-teach it. We help them get away from their bad habits - and then, they start working actual problems." Has Hathcock used dry-fire much as a training tool? "No, we don't. Sometimes, we get a few problem students, and then we'll have someone designated to go out and teach 'em snapping in." How about shooting positions? The final qualification involves firing only 14 rounds. Sound simple? Well, perhaps... but a perfect score is required to graduate!! [Note: police officers who qualify and who would like further information should not contact Mr. Hathcock. Rather, inquiries should be directed to MPO (Master Police Officer) Mike Mack or MPO Dan Lackey, in care of the SPOT Dept., Virginia Beach, VA. The maximum course capacity is 24 students - i.e., twelve, two-man teams.]
Carlos Hathcock on Sniping Equipment
Carlos served in Viet Nam in 1966-1967, and again in 1969. On his first tour, he used primarily the Winchester Model 70 Target rifle in .30-06, with an 8X Unertl target scope having outside adjustments. Speaking of this combination, he noted, "I loved it. I thought it was great, at the time." Was the scope reliable in its adjustments and return to zero? "Yes, it worked well. I did take off the recoil springs, however. I preferred returning the scope to battery myself each time I shot, because then I knew it went back to the same place each time." [Readers may recall that Hathcock had extensive competitive experience with this rifle/scope combination prior to his arrival in Viet Nam.] Despite his prior exposure to handloaded target ammunition in .300 Win. Mag. for competition, Carlos commented that the accuracy of the rifle was good with issued Lake City Match ammo. and that he never used handloads to enhance accuracy. However, the Unertl target scopes did have a tendency to fog in wet weather, which hampered his effectiveness.
The later Remington M-700's in 7.62 NATO also worked well, but Carlos wasn't a fan of the issue Redfield 3-9X scopes, noting, "Heck, we had more scopes in the shop than in the field, at times. Guys were ranging back and forth with 'em, and the power adjustment would go out. I wound up telling my guys to just leave 'em on 9X. They had a rangefinder, but it would only go up to 500 yards. I kept my scopes zeroed at 700 yards!" Would a more modern rifle have made much difference in Hathcock's effectiveness? "Yes! Definitely! We had wood stocks, which didn't do very well over there - the zero kept changing. A fiberglass stock would have kept our zeros the same."
Carlos mentioned that he had not used the M-21 (accurized M-14 sniper system) while overseas. How about suppressors? "No, our noise suppressor was distance. We just shot from so far away, they couldn't tell where we were." Did Hathcock ever use night vision? "No, I never did. Now, I did use an infra-red scope one night, and I was scanning with this scope, and there was an infra-red looking back at me! Click! I turned that sucker off quick! It was an attention-getter! We never really had much night vision capability with our rifles, any how. Starlight wasn't too much good. You could kill the heck out of a tombstone, and all you gotta do is pay for it." He laughed as he explained, "McAbee did that - he saw this tombstone that looked just like one of the bad guys... he kept banging at it, but it never fell, and he had to pay for it. I didn't like them Starlights, anyway. Things were green in there, and I never could make anything out with 'em, to tell you the truth."
What was Carlos' opinion of the standard M-14 rifle in combat? "It was very reliable... very, VERY reliable. When them M-16's first came in country, man, they were killin' a lot of people - the people shootin' 'em! When I went back the second time, I would NOT let my people carry the M-16 'cause I wanted all my people to come back. And, I never lost a person over there." He laughed goodnaturedly as he went on, "Never lost nobody but me, and that wasn't my fault!" What does Carlos think of the M-16 now, with all the improvements that have been made to it since Viet Nam? "Well, I've never had much experience with M-16's. My son [SSG Carlos N. Hathcock III, USMC] seems to like it, 'cause that's what he's armed with. He shoots it in matches, and he seems to like it."
Carlos mentioned that he had kept his rifle zeroed at 700 yards while in Viet Nam. I was especially curious as to whether he might have worked out a trajectory table for his scope in clicks per 1 00 yards, in order to change his elevation zero as needed. "No, I mainly held off, and I taught my people in my platoon to hold off, too." How much wind did he encounter in Viet Nam? "it was considerable. I was shooting across a river, one time, and the wind just whistled down the river. I missed two bad guys in one day... I didn't hold enough, and hit in front of both of 'em. Then, other times, I held just right..." How about in the early mornings and late evenings? "Oh, yeah, it was calmer then, except in the monsoon season, when it was windy all the time. It was rainy... Jeez, what a time that was." Could he operate effectively during the monsoon season? "No, that's when you turned into an observer, actually."
Moving to more modern equipment, Carlos mentioned that he had helped test several scopes as part of the development of the M-4OAl USMC sniper rifle following the Viet Nam War. The winner was a new design by Unerfl. This fixed 1 OX was so tough that the final test involved using the scope to pound a tent stake into frozen ground!! Carlos' eyes lit up as he recalled the testing... not only did the scope continue to function, it wasn't even dented!! And what of sniper rifles for the police counter-sniper? "In all the schools I've given across this country, I've seen a lot of hodgepodge mess, from people who didn't know what to use, so they used all kinds of stuff," he snorted. "Light barrels... heck, after three shots, those bullets will go everywhere that you DO NOT want them to go! You will never, ever qualify on MY course with a light-barreled rifle. We recommend only the best equipment for the job. That's a Remington 700 heavy barrel, in caliber .308. We also recommend the Leupold fixed 1OX Ultra scope, and the Harris bipod - the swiveling type. Of course, they're the most expensive, but... they're good ones." Carlos still prefers fixedpower scopes over variables, due to their greater simplicity. I was curious about his preference for scope reticles. He holds that the current 3/4 mil dot reticle is now as advanced as is possible, with little room for improvement as a range-estimating aid.
When we moved to the subject of ammunition, Hathcock had definite views here, as well. "We recommend Federal Match .308, with the 168 grain hollowpoint Sierra. We've tested all the brands the department can buy, and Federal Match is by FAR the best. It's the most accurate, and the quality control is magnificent. I've been up to the company to see how they make it - there are so many quality control checks on each and every round that goes through there... Whew!!" Carlos' minimum accuracy standard for sniper rifles intrigued me. What does a master sniper consider the minimum necessary to get the job done? In his view, a military or police sniper rifle must be capable, at a minimum, of keeping 3-shot groups inside one minute of angle at 100 yards. On the subject of stocks, Carlos considers an adjustable cheekpiece and adjustable buttplate to be highly desirable options. Overall, however, his equipment preferences stress simplicity and reliability above all else. And, he should know. His preferences are based on extensive field experience, not theory. As he says, "I believe in the K.I.S.S. program: Keep It Simple, Stupid! I love that. I don't like nothin' complicated. I'm not a very learned man, but I know this job!"
Carlos Hathcock on Mental Discipline
Not surprisingly, Carlos places heavy emphasis on a shooter's being both physically fit and highly disciplined, mentally. His own high degree of mental discipline is evident in the feats described in Marine Sniper, and I talked with at length throughout the interviews to get a better understanding how this trait was cultivated. Carlos entered the service well prepared for a demanding career, as he had assumed responsibility for providing for his family at an early age. Marine Corps boot camp helped as well, and his training as a competitive shooter on the USMC rifle teams contributed greatly to both the technical knowledge and mental discipline needed to be an effective combat sniper. Hathcock's technical skills were well-honed by the time he went overseas; he reports that he practiced very little on the range once in Viet Nam, as he was almost constantly in the field, and "there were lots of moving targets around" (Viet Cong and NVA).
We moved to the subject of adjusting to combat. Carlos mentioned that, as he engaged more and more enemy soldiers, he found the shooting easier and easier to do. He was highly motivated to push the fledgling sniper program by showing the line units and commanders what a sniper could achieve. This motivation, together with the desire to carry out his mission of destroying and harassing the enemy, gradually accelerated into a driving passion which drew him irresistibly to the field. He would barely return from one mission before embarking upon another, and finally, his commanding officer had to place him under arrest, confining him to his base due to severe fatigue and increasing deterioration of his health. Carlos considers advanced marksmanship training, such as that practiced in training military shooting teams for competition, an invaluable aid in developing the mental discipline and concentration required of the military or police sniper.
What other qualities does Hathcock look for in a potential sniper candidate? Is there any one particular personality style that he prefers? "Well not really. We do
like country boys, but some people do not go hunting any more. There are fewer places to hunt, these days. A lot of those city folks are good, too - they have to be. To be on a SWAT team, you HAVE to have a proper mentality - and be disciplined, both mentally and physically."
Willingness to challenge oneself and a positive attitude are also important. Carlos recalled, "My Daddy told me a long time ago, when I was a little feller, he said, 'Son, there is no such word as 'can't'. Some things are a little harder to accomplish than others, but the word 'can't' does not stay in my vocabulary. Don't let it stay in yours.' And, since then, I've used the same thing. There's no such word as 'can't' - and my guys quit using it too. They'd say, 'but, Gunny, I can't do that,' and I'd say 'WHAT?? What was that four-letter word?' If they used it again, they'd be doing push-ups all day. There is NOTHING you cannot do." How about practice? "You've always gotta be training, to keep your skills sharp. We recommend police snipers train once a week. You've got to be sharp to make that one shot. One shot, that's all you're there for. It only takes one shot to eliminate a situation, and you've got to be the best at it."
As our interview drew to a close, I asked Carlos, "If you could you could tell the competitive shooters anything that you think would be of value to them, what would it be?" His answer was succinct: "Stay off drugs and keep training. Practice, practice, practice. If you want to be any good at all, you've got to practice. I never did want to be no 'used-to-was'! You being a shooter yourself, you know that shooting is a deteriorating skill... if you don't stay in practice, you'll lose it!" And, would Carlos like to convey to military and police snipers today? "Maintain your discipline - physical and mental. That will carry you over; you've got to have discipline in everything you do out there. In the police aspect, especially, if you don't have discipline, you're in left field - you'll get sued. That's the big thing today, is to sue somebody. The shot that you make has to be the correct shot. That's where discipline comes in, and careful, extensive observation. You don't want to risk shooting the hostage, thinking he's the bad guy."
Some Thoughts on Carlos Hathcock Today
These days, Carlos Hathcock can no longer hunt or shoot. It is obviously a matter of sincere regret to him that he can no longer instruct police marksmen, due to his advancing illness. His enduring love of teaching is manifest. When talking about marksmanship principles or the need for discipline, the fire and drive that led him to his remarkable achievements appears, and the Hathcock of old emerges. It is typical of the man. Whatever he does, he does one hundred percent. Today, Carlos has few, if any, other interests, and his illness has stolen his chief pleasures in life. Despite his losses - or, perhaps in small part, because of them - the shooting fraternity continues to stand by him, as I saw during my visits. Carlos and his wife, Jo, receive frequent calls from shooters, soldiers and veterans, wishing them well, and Carlos reports that this helps him. The Hathcocks have made many friends during their travels. Throughout their house, one notices plaques and awards which attest to the respect and appreciation Carlos has earned through his selfless contributions to law enforcement, the military, and the shooting community at large.
It is vital not to overlook the sacrifices Carlos Hathcock made in the service of his country. Of course, he faced danger, physical hardships and separation from his family as a professional soldier. These are the risks that soldiers take, and Carlos accepted them as part of his chosen career. As a shooter, however, he gave all. In 1965, he was nearing the peak of his shooting ability, having won the Wimbledon Cup and having only narrowly missed taking the National Service Rifle Championship. He did this as a relatively new competitor! There can be little doubt that he had the skill, the drive, the determination and the potential to be a national champion many times over. Horribly burned during his second tour of duty in Viet Nam, Carlos' physical limitations would never permit him to achieve his full potential as a competitor, and he misses shooting to this very day. Now, the camaraderie of the shooting fraternity constitutes one of his few remaining pleasures.
Jo Hathcock, too, deserves special recognition for her steadfast nature. Life as the bride of Carlos Hathcock can not have been easy, at times. From her early days as a "shooting widow" when Carlos was competing on the Marine team, to the months of uncertainty about his safety when he served in Viet Nam, to helping him through the lengthy recovery from his burns and his later adjustment to multiple sclerosis, Jo Hathcock has always been there. Now, although experiencing significant health problems of her own, Jo graciously greets her husband's many admirers, and accepts without complaints the frequent interruptions to her otherwise quiet life. Carlos and Jo are a matched pair - they are dependable.
When I traveled to meet Carlos Hathcock, he was frozen in my mind's eye as an almost supernatural figure - a lean, fit young Marine, keen of eye, the epitome of stealth and cunning - as still and patient as Death itself. Like a wraith, he stalked the jungle, melting into it and making it his own, much like its native tiger. Certainly, Carlos has become an icon to many in the shooting world - a symbol of what one may achieve through skill, self-discipline and courage. And, it is safe to say that as long as the old-fashioned virtues of patriotism, self-sacrifice, skill at arms and bravery exist, Carlos Hathcock will be remembered. However, what I observed as I got to know him was courage of a different sort. This was not so much the gallantry of a soldier on the battlefield, but the quiet resolution of a man fighting to gracefully manage an illness which he can't control, and which he knows must someday, inexorably, overwhelm him, despite his best efforts. This is the calm, steady courage born of strength of character which enables Carlos Hathcock to endure pain 24 hours a day without complaint, and to think of others and their welfare even when living a desperate, daily battle of his own. in the final analysis, both Carlos and Jo Hathcock impressed me as simple, honest, goodhearted folks. Life tries them daily, and they are not found wanting. Carlos is aware of his fame, but routinely dismisses his heroic actions a bit self-consciously, saying, "I was just doing my job." As he said when I left for home, "We're just people."
My time in Virginia Beach was especially meaningful to me. I had the opportunity to express my appreciation to Carlos Hathcock for all that he did for his country, which I has long wanted to do. But, there was an unexpected bonus, as well. When I walked up the driveway to that neat, little house in Virginia, I shook hands with a legend. Through Carlos' pleasant, open nature, when I left, I shook hands with a friend.
Author's note: The contents and accuracy of this article were approved by Carlos Hathcock.
by John Feamster PRECISION SHOOTING - MARCH, 1996
VIRGINIA BEACH -- He became a Marine Corps legend in Vietnam by delivering 93 confirmed sniper kills on the enemy, but friends of retired Gunnery Sgt. Carlos ``Gunny'' Hathcock II would rather he be remembered for the lives he saved during the war in Southeast Asia.
Hathcock, 57, died Monday after battling multiple sclerosis since 1975. He had retired from the Marine Corps in 1979.
His death came just two weeks after he helped pin a promotion on his 34-year-old son, Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Norman Hathcock III, during a ceremony the Marines moved to the family's Pembroke area home.
The debilitating effects of multiple sclerosis and severe burns he suffered during Vietnam prevented Hathcock from traveling for the ceremony to North Carolina, where his son is stationed.
Hathcock was burned almost beyond recognition on Sept. 16, 1969, in a Vietnamese mine explosion during which he was credited with saving the lives of seven Marines he dragged from a burning halftrack that day.
He and the other Marines had been riding atop the assault vehicle when it struck a 500-pound land mine near the South Vietnamese town of Que-son.
Hathcock was ``sprayed with flaming gasoline caused by the explosion,'' according to the citation for the Silver Star medal presented by Navy Secretary John Dalton, during a November 1996 ceremony at the Quantico Marine Base in Northern Virginia.
``With complete disregard for his own safety and while suffering excruciating pain from his burns, he bravely ran back through the flames and exploding ammunition to ensure that no Marines had been left behind,'' the citation reads.
Hathcock received the nation's third-highest military medal after a letter-writing campaign by friends who had hoped to get Hathcock a Medal of Honor to recognize his courage in battle.
While the explosion ended Hathcock's fighting career, his admirers have pointed out that the wounded he helped that day were a small fraction of the people he saved by hunting down some of the enemy's most skilled killers.
The Viet Cong called him ``Long Tra'ng,'' The White Feather, because he was accustomed to wearing one in his hat. A newspaper once named him the deadliest gun in the Corps. His vanity Virginia license tags read: SNIPER.
``I never looked at it like this was some sort of shooting match, where the man with the most kills wins the gold medal,'' he once told another Marine.
``Hell, anybody would be crazy to like to go out and kill folks. . . . I never did enjoy killing anybody. It's my job. If I don't get those bastards, then they're going to kill a lot of these kids. That's the way I look at it.''
The walls in Hathcock's home are covered with accolades won in nearly 20 years in the Corps.
A good many others can be found elsewhere: the Carlos Hathcock Award is presented annually to the best marksman in the Marine Corps, a Corps library in Washington bears his name, and competitive shooters often bandy his name as once the world's best.
Hathcock won the 1965 Wimbledon cup, long-distance shooting's most prestigious prize. A book about Hathcock, ``Marine Sniper,'' was released in 1987.
In April 1996, he was presented a Meritorious Public Service Award by the city of Virginia Beach for a decade of training police sharpshooters. He had shared his shooting expertise with law enforcement officers and became a volunteer instructor.
In 1990, the Virginia Civil Air Patrol Unit adopted Carlos Hathcock's name for honor and inspiration. The unit is now called the Carlos Hathcock Rangers.
Also that year, the Virginia Beach Sheriff's Department deputized Hathcock into its ranks for doing part-time consulting work for the department, primarily in firearms training.
Hathcock said he survived and succeeded as a sniper because of an ability to ``get in the bubble,'' to put himself into a state of ``utter, complete, absolute concentration,'' on his quarry and environment.
It's an ability few men acquire, observed retired Staff Sgt. Edward J. Land Jr., who recruited Hathcock to be a Marine sniper. ``Every breeze, every leaf, meant something. He was able to log it all in, and use it.''
Fellow Marines impressed Hathcock the most.
On a hot July afternoon in 1990, while Hathcock was sitting in a lawn chair in front of his home, a Marine squad of 14 men came running into sight.
Neighbors cheered and clapped as the weary runners came closer. The street went quiet as the men silently formed two straight rows outside the house.
Their arrival marked the end of a 216-mile run -- all the way from Camp Lejeune, N.C., to Hathcock's home in Virginia Beach.
There, Sgt. J.D. Smith, of the Scout Sniper Platoon, 1st Battalion, 6th Marines, presented Hathcock with a $5,000 check for the local multiple sclerosis chapter. The Marines raised the money through pledges per mile and lump sum donations.
``I haven't seen anything as fine as what you've done for me,'' Hathcock told the men that day as they stood before him at attention.
``I'm so touched, I can hardly talk.''
Edward Hyland, a Marine first lieutenant and senior officer on the personnel carrier the day it exploded, feels a responsibility for not trying to get Hathcock nominated for the Medal of Honor.
``When asked about a medal, Hathcock insisted he didn't want any award,'' Hyland said, ``that he was just doing his job. So I respected his wishes and did not write it up at that time.''
Over the years, Hyland, now living in Arizona, would remember the explosion, Hathcock's burning uniform, Hathcock's face as the sergeant pulled Hyland to safety. Hyland suffered burns over 40 percent of his body and had his left arm amputated at the shoulder as a result of his injuries, but he credits Hathcock with saving his life.
Uncomfortable with not having nominated Hathcock for a medal, Hyland eventually asked congressional representatives and senators to intervene on the Marine's behalf.
But too much time had passed: Applications for medals close three years after the incidents for which they are requested. All attempts to reopen the investigation were turned away by the Marine Corps.
The National Defense Authorization Act of 1996 opened a one-year window in which veterans could resubmit applications for various decorations they might deserve but did not receive during their service.
It covered American conflicts from World War II to the El Salvador civil war. And for Vietnam veterans, it included the Medal of Honor.
Since the bill's passage into law, the Marine Corps' Washington-based Military Awards Branch received 56 requests from senators and representatives that Hathcock's deeds be investigated, along with countless letters supporting his nomination.
The Silver Star was awarded to Hathcock instead.
Only 180 Medals of Honor have been awarded to Marines during the period from World War II to the Vietnam War, said Fred Anthony, of the Awards Branch. Of those, 120 were given posthumously.
BY JACK DORSEY, The Virginian-Pilot
Copyright 1999, Landmark Communications Inc.
The Sniper With A Steadfast Aim
By Stephen Hunter, Washington Post Staff Writer
The academics write their mighty histories. The politicians dictate their memoirs. The retired generals give their speeches. The intellectuals record their ironic epiphanies. And in all this hubbub attending wars either lost or won, the key man is forgotten -- the lonely figure crouched in the bushes, wishing he were somewhere else: the man with the rifle.
Such a man has just died, and his passing will be marked elsewhere only in small, specialized journals with names like Leatherneck and Tactical Shooter and in the Jesuitical culture of the Marine Corps, where he is still fiercely admired.
And in some quarters, even that small amount of respect will be observed with skepticism. After all, he was merely a grunt. He was a sergeant who made people do push-ups. He fought in a bad war. He was beyond irony, perspective or introspection. He made no policies, he commanded no battalions, he invented no colorful code names for operations. But worst of all, he was a sniper.
Gunnery Sgt. (Ret.) Carlos N. Hathcock II, USMC, died Monday at 57 in Virginia Beach, after a long decline in the grip of the only enemy he wasn't able to kill: multiple sclerosis. In the end, he didn't recognize his own friends. So it was a kind of mercy, one supposes. But he had quite a life. In two tours in the 1960s, he wandered through the big bad bush in the Republic of South Vietnam, and with a rifle made by Winchester, a heart made by God and a discipline made by the Marine Corps, he stalked and killed 93 of his country's enemies. And that was only the official count.
It's not merely that Vietnam was a war largely without heroes. It's also that the very nature of Hathcock's heroism was a problem for so many. He killed, nakedly and without warning. There is something in the mercilessness of the sniper that makes the heart recoil. He attracts vultures, not only to his carcasses but also to his psyche. Is he sick? Is he psycho? The line troops call him "Murder Inc." behind his back. They puzzle over what he does. When they kill, it's in hot blood, in a haze of smoke and adrenaline. And much of the other death they see is inflicted by industrial applications, such as air power or artillery, which almost seem beyond human agency.
But the sniper is different. He isn't at the point of the spear, he is the point of the spear. He reduces warfare to its purest element, the destruction of another human being. He's like a '50s mad scientist, who learns things no man can learn -- how it looks through an 8x scope when you center-punch an enemy at 200 yards, and how it feels -- but he learns them at the risk of his own possible exile from the community.
But maybe Hathcock never cared much for the larger community, but only the Marine Corps and its mission. "Vietnam," he told a reporter in 1987, "was just right for me." He even began sniping before the Corps had instituted an official policy.
And one must give Hathcock credit for consistency: In all the endless revising done in the wake of our second-place finish in the Southeast Asia war games, he never reinvented himself or pretended to be something he wasn't. He remained a true believer to the end, not in his nation's glory or its policies, but in his narrower commitment to the Marine code of the rifle. He never euphemized, didn't call himself an "enemy troop-strength reduction technician" or "counter-morale specialist." He never walked away from who he'd been and what he'd done. He was salty, leathery and a tough Marine Corps professional NCO, even in a wheelchair. His license plate said it best: SNIPER.
"Hell," he once said, "anybody would be crazy to like to go out and kill folks. . . . I never did enjoy killing anybody. It's my job. If I don't get those bastards, then they're going to kill a lot of these kids. That's the way I look at it."
Though he was known for many years as the Marine Corps' leading sniper -- later, a researcher uncovered another sniper with a few more official kills -- he took no particular pleasure in the raw numbers.
"I'll never look at it like this was some sort of shooting match, where the man with the most kills wins the gold medal," he once said.
Ironically, the only decoration for valor that he won was for saving, not taking, lives. On his second tour in Vietnam, on Sept. 16, 1969, he was riding atop an armored personnel carrier when it struck a 500-pound mine and erupted into flames. Hathcock was knocked briefly unconscious, sprayed with flaming gasoline and thrown clear. Waking, he climbed back aboard the burning vehicle to drag seven other Marines out. Then, "with complete disregard for his own safety and while suffering an excruciating pain from his burns, he bravely ran back through the flames and exploding ammunition to ensure that no Marines had been left behind," according to the citation for the Silver Star he received in November 1996, after an extensive letter-writing campaign by fellow Marines had failed to win him the Medal of Honor for his exploits with a rifle.
But he was equally proud of the fact that as a sniper platoon sergeant on two tours, no man under his command was killed.
"I never lost a person over there," he told a visiting journalist in 1995. "Never lost nobody but me, and that wasn't my fault."
Hathcock was an Arkansan, from a dirt-poor broken home, who joined the Marine Corps at 17 and quickly understood that he had found his place in the world. He qualified as an expert rifleman in boot camp and began quickly to win competitive shooting events, specializing in service rifle competition. In 1965, he won the Wimbledon Cup, the premier American 1,000-yard shooting championship. Shortly after that he was in Vietnam, but it was six months before the Marines learned the value of dedicated sniper operations and a former commanding officer built a new unit around his talents. Hathcock gave himself to the war with such fury that he took no liberty, no days off and toward the end of his first tour was finally restricted to quarters to prevent him from going on further missions.
After the war, he suffered from the inevitable melancholy. Forced medical retirement from the Corps in 1979 -- he had served 19 years 10 months 5 days -- led to drinking problems and extended bitterness. The multiple sclerosis, discovered in 1975, certainly didn't help, and burns that covered 43 percent of his body made things even more painful, but what may have saved his life -- it certainly saved the quality of his life -- was the incremental recognition that came his way as more and more people discovered who he was and what he had done. Even in the atmosphere of moral recrimination in the aftermath of the war, enough people far from media centers and universities were still attracted to the spartan simplicity of his life and battles and to the integrity of his heroism.
His biography, "Marine Sniper," written by Charles Henderson, was published in 1985; it sold over half a million copies. In the brief blast of publicity that followed, he stood still for interviews with The Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune and others. The general population may have soon forgotten about him, but in the world of target shooters, hunters and police and military shooting, he was a revered figure. And particularly as shooters came to perceive themselves under attack from mainstream culture, he became a symbol of the heroic man with a gun. He connected, in some atavistic way, to other American heroes, like Audie Murphy or Sgt. Alvin York, perhaps even Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone. They were all men like Hathcock who grew up on hardscrabble farms far from the big cities and learned early to shoot, read sign and understand the terrain.
Other gun culture enterprises kept him visible in a specialized universe unmonitored by the media, and put some money on the table. He authorized a poster that showed him in full combat regalia, crouched over his Model 70 Winchester, his face blackened, his boonie cap scrunched close to his head, the only identifier being a small sprig of feather in its band. In fact, a long-range .308-caliber ammunition was sold as "White Feather," from the Vietnamese Long Tra'ng, his nickname. He consulted on law enforcement sharpshooting, a growth area in the '80s and '90s as nearly every police department in America appointed a designated marksman to its de rigueur SWAT team. He appeared in several videos, where he revealed himself to be a practically oriented man of few but decisive words, with a sense of humor dry as a stick. He inspired several novels and at least two nonfiction books, and his exploits made it onto TV, where a "JAG" episode featured a tough old Marine sniper, and even into the movies, even if he was never credited.
In both 1994's "Sniper" and, more recently, "Saving Private Ryan," heroic riflemen dispatch enemy counter-snipers with rounds so perfectly placed they travel the tube of the enemy's scope before hitting him in the eye. In both cases, the shooters are tough Southerners (played by Tom Berenger and Barry Pepper), very much in the Hathcock mold. According to "Marine Sniper," Hathcock made such a shot, dispatching a Viet Cong sniper sent to target him specifically.
Also according to that book, he ambushed a female enemy interrogator, a North Vietnamese general and a VC platoon that he took down, a man at a time, over a 24-hour engagement.
Finally, and perhaps best of all, he ascended to a special kind of Marine celebrity. The Corps named the annual Carlos Hathcock Award after him for its best marksman. A Marine library in Washington has been named after him and a Virginia Civil Air Patrol unit named itself after him. In 1990 a Marine unit raised $5,000 in donations to fight multiple sclerosis and presented it to him at his home. They brought it to him the old-fashioned way, the Marine way: They ran 216 miles from Camp Lejeune, N.C., to Virginia Beach.
It was a tribute to his toughness that Carlos Hathcock understood.
According to the account in the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot, the old sniper told the men, "I am so touched, I can hardly talk."
In the end, he could not escape the terrible disease that had afflicted him since 1975. But death, with whom he had an intimate relationship, at least came to him quietly -- as if out of respect.
Carlos Hathcock; Sniper in Vietnam
His vanity license plates in Virginia read SNIPER, and during the Vietnam War he was just that, the bearer of a surprising, sudden death to enemy soldiers. But when Marine Gunnery Sgt. Carlos N. Hathcock II died last week at the age of 57, the enemy that ultimately felled him was the slow, patient progression of multiple sclerosis.
No Marine sniper was more effective than Hathcock at killing North Vietnamese and Viet Cong forces. The number 93 reflects his confirmed kills, but his actual total is believed to be well over 100. As a testament to his effectiveness, North Vietnam once put a bounty of $30,000.00 on his head.
The Viet Cong knew him as well and called him "Long Trang," the white feather, because he often wore one in his bush hat. Hathcock remains a legend in the Marines. The Carlos Hathcock Award is presented annually to the Marine who does the most to promote marksmanship. And there is a sniper range named for Hathcock at Camp Lejeune, NC
Late in his life, he was awarded a Silver Star, the third-highest military honor, for an incident that happened nearly 30 years earlier, when he pulled seven comrades off a burning armored personnel carrier that had struck a mine. That act bravery left Hathcock badly burned and effectively ended his career as a rifleman.
Hathcock, a native of Arkansas, was a slight, unassuming man with a self-contained temperament that made him perfect for a job that involved infiltrating deep into enemy-held territory and waiting, often for days, to take one shot at his target.
He once said that he survived in his work because of an ability to "get in the bubble," to put himself into a state of "utter, complete, absolute concentration," first on his equipment, then on his environment in which every breeze and every leaf meant something, and finally on his quarry.
His work demanded steady nerves and was exhausting. During one pursuit of an enemy general, he had to cover more than 1,000 meters of open terrain during three days and nights of constant crawling an inch at a time. Enemy patrols came within 20 feet of Hathcock, who lay camouflaged with grass and vegetation in the open.
During two 13-month tours of duty in Vietnam, Hathcock volunteered for so many missions that his commanding officer once had to restrict him to quarters to make him rest. At the time the 5-foot, 10-inch Hathcock weighed only 120 pounds.
"It was the stalk that I enjoyed," he once told a reporter for the Washington Post. "Pitting yourself against another human being. There was no second place in Vietnam-second place was a body bag. Everybody was scared and those that weren't are liars. But you can let that work for you. It makes you more alert, keener, and that's how it got for me. It made me be the best."
Raised outside Little Rock, Hathcock lived with his grandmother after his parents divorced. He loved the outdoors and taught himself to hunt in the woods as a young boy. He knew where the rabbits and squirrels ran. "As a young'n, I'd go sit in the woods and wait a spell," he once said. "I'd just wait for the rabbits and squirrels 'cause sooner or later a squirrel would be in that very tree or a rabbit would be coming by that very log. I just knew it. Don't know why, just did."
By age 10, he was bringing meat home to the table regularly. As soon as he turned 17 in 1959, Hathcock enlisted in the Marines. It didn't take him long to make his mark. He qualified immediately at boot camp in San Diego as an expert shot.
Over the next several years, he won many shooting championships, including the prestigious Wimbledon cup-long-range shooting's most prestigious prize-in 1965. A year later he was sent to Vietnam. His first job in Vietnam was as a military policeman, but he wanted more action. He volunteered for regular reconnaissance patrols but felt uneasy with Marines who did not have the woodcraft skills that he possessed. He wanted to hunt on his own.
At first, his fellow Marines questioned the usefulness of a lone sniper, but after six months-and 14 confirmed kills-Hathcock's methods won acceptance. He once said that Vietnam was "just right" for him. Although he once told a fellow Marine that he never looked at his work "as a shooting match, where the man with the most kills wins the gold medal," he told the Post reporter that he "did enjoy it once. And it scared me. Bad."
Hathcock's career as a sniper came to sudden end outside Queson in 1969, when the amphibious tractor he was riding on was ambushed and hit a 500-pound box mine. Hathcock pulled seven marines off the flame-engulfed vehicle before jumping to safety. As was his way, he rejected any commendation for his bravery.
He came out of the attack with second- and third-degree burns over more than 40% of his body and was evacuated to Brooke Army Medical Center in Texas, where he underwent 13 skin graft operations. The nature of the injuries left him unable to perform effectively again with a rifle.
After returning to active duty, he helped establish a scout and sniper school at the Marine base in Quantico, VA.
"He emphasized snipers could not be John Wayne, that we should be reserved," said Sgt. William Bartholomew, a sniper in the Baltimore Police Department who trained under Hathcock.
"If you didn't apply when he taught you, if you made an absentminded error, he could stare right through you," Bartholomew told the Baltimore Sun. "He could chew you out without ever raising his voice."
In 1975, Hathcock's health was deteriorating and he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, in incurable degenerative nerve disorder. He stayed in the Corps but continued to decline in health and was forced to retire just 55 days short of the 20 years that would have made him eligible for full retirement pay.
During his retirement ceremony, he was presented a plaque by his commanding officer. It read: "There have been many Marines. And there have been many Marine marksmen. But there is only one Marine Sniper-Gunnery Sgt. Carlos N. Hathcock II. One Shot-One Kill." Despite the sentiment on the plaque, Hathcock left the service an embittered man. He lived in Virginia Beach, Va., with his wife of 35 years, Josephine, but his health declined to the point where he was confined to a wheelchair.
Eventually, he came out of his depression and was hired by police departments to lecture on the art of sniping. Two books were written about his exploits and a movie called "Sniper," which was loosely based on his career, was released.
His disease, however, was relentless. His death came two weeks after he helped pin a promotion on his only child, 34-year-old Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock III, during a ceremony the Marines moved from North Carolina to the Hathcocks' Virginia Beach home.
After the war, a friend showed Hathcock a passage written by Ernest Hemingway: "Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and like it, never really care for anything else thereafter."
Hathcock copied Hemingway's words on a piece of paper. "He got that right," Hathcock said. "It was the hunt, not the killing."
Josephine (Joe) Hathcock (Carlos Hathcock's wife)
has requested that if anybody would like to do anything they should donate to:
The Multiple Sclerosis Foundation, Inc. (MSF)
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